Yeah, I'll put everything forward as well and say that the original Club Saturn (the private one, that is) was created so myself and a few other individuals could converse without the (in our opinion) overly abrasive atmosphere that we felt plagued the MFGG chat at the time.
Club Saturn EX, however, was created when a large influx of people (Coconuts and Sevrault being the firsts, iirc) expressed a desire to join said group. I decided that, instead of opening the floodgates of our private, personal group, we'd make a public version that's open to all. EX was not intended to act as a replacement to the MFGG chat, per se. At least, that's not how we saw it. We just wanted a sort of chill atmosphere to goof around.
I will fully admit that my style of moderation has tended to be on the stricter side, but I suppose the thing with public chats is that anybody can join and do anything if you let them. My view on spam in a Discord chat is usually when messages are coming in rapidly that have clearly little or no thought to them, but I don't mind just regular old silliness. I've been trying to be a bit more lax about it, however.
Now, I'll fully admit that I can agree that a split mentality exists. And yes, it definitely has to do with the IRC being created. However, I'd argue that many members found the MFGG group just a generally unfun place to be, which is why I assume Club Saturn EX took off like it did. Like America in real life, there's a few different groups that have differing ideas of what they want MFGG to be. And to be frank, I doubt the mentality of the group had much effect on Nite Shadow as he hasn't actually been in EX for a while now.
As said before, I did not and still do not consider Club Saturn EX to be a MFGG group exclusively. I know that it's been used as one (to discuss MFGG drama and whatnot) and trust me, that displeases me as much as Mit, if not more. Mit, if you want to discuss some kind of group compromise, I am fully willing to lend an ear, albeit in private, not here.
I apologize to the staff if this counts as an outside dispute, but I felt I should attempt (emphasis on attempt, haha) to clear some things up. I will accept any warning points you feel I deserve.
On the note of the actual purpose of the topic, Nite Shadow is a good friend of mine and the first person on MFGG to really talk to me and lend me an ear. He's been kind, supportive and understanding to me and I hope he returns, if only as a member.
Yeah, I'll put everything forward as well and say that the original Club Saturn (the private one, that is) was created so myself and a few other individuals could converse without the (in our opinion) overly abrasive atmosphere that we felt plagued the MFGG chat at the time.
Club Saturn [i]EX[/i], however, was created when a large influx of people (Coconuts and Sevrault being the firsts, iirc) expressed a desire to join said group. I decided that, instead of opening the floodgates of our private, personal group, we'd make a public version that's open to all. EX was not [i]intended[/i] to act as a replacement to the MFGG chat, per se. At least, that's not how we saw it. We just wanted a sort of chill atmosphere to goof around.
I will fully admit that my style of moderation has tended to be on the stricter side, but I suppose the thing with public chats is that anybody can join and do anything if you let them. My view on spam in a Discord chat is usually when messages are coming in rapidly that have clearly little or no thought to them, but I don't mind just regular old silliness. I've been trying to be a bit more lax about it, however.
Now, I'll fully admit that I can agree that a split mentality exists. And yes, it definitely has to do with the IRC being created. However, I'd argue that many members found the MFGG group just a generally unfun place to be, which is why I assume Club Saturn EX took off like it did. Like America in real life, there's a few different groups that have differing ideas of what they want MFGG to be. And to be frank, I doubt the mentality of the group had much effect on Nite Shadow as he hasn't actually been in EX for a while now.
As said before, I did not and still do not consider Club Saturn EX to be a MFGG group exclusively. I know that it's been used as one (to discuss MFGG drama and whatnot) and trust me, that displeases me as much as Mit, if not more. Mit, if you want to discuss some kind of group compromise, I am fully willing to lend an ear, albeit in private, not here.
I apologize to the staff if this counts as an outside dispute, but I felt I should attempt (emphasis on attempt, haha) to clear some things up. I will accept any warning points you feel I deserve.
On the note of the actual purpose of the topic, Nite Shadow is a good friend of mine and the first person on MFGG to really talk to me and lend me an ear. He's been kind, supportive and understanding to me and I hope he returns, if only as a member.
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