This just kinda looks like...well, another Hello Engine game but with wall-jumping and a few new graphical bells and whistles. Sure, there are a few new features which change it up a bit, but it's the same physics and the same graphical style. I know it's not fair to judge a game before you play it, but I've played so many Hello Engine games before that I feel I hardly need to actually try out the game to get an idea of how it feels. Hello, you're a great programmer. A LEGENDARY programmer. Please, please program us something new.

[quote="soopakoopa"]This just kinda looks like...well, another Hello Engine game but with wall-jumping and a few new graphical bells and whistles. Sure, there are a few new features which change it up a bit, but it's the same physics and the same graphical style. I know it's not fair to judge a game before you play it, but I've played so many Hello Engine games before that I feel I hardly need to actually try out the game to get an idea of how it feels. Hello, you're a great programmer. A LEGENDARY programmer. Please, please program us something new.[/quote] It's definitely leaning out of the engine's own boundaries, but there are definitely still a ton of lingering "been there, done that" elements.

Well, I suppose I ought to at least give it a try before I judge it to harshly.

I agree with soopakoopa. Hello you are a amazing game creator, but mostly all your games are the same. Nothing really has changed... Same powerups, same graphics, same sounds, and especially you keep using the Darkness theme for all your games now... Ztar Turmoil, Eclipse and now Dynamo... It's just getting out of hand with this. You need to think of a new plot, a new style, and some new elements. Make your games feel NEW... ;)

Well, I played it a bit, and I'm afraid I'll have to stand by my original judgement; this just feels like another Hello Engine game with a new gimmick. Also, the difficulty is ridiculously unfair. While you have unlimited lives and plenty of checkpoints (usually before the frustrating parts, granted), the hard parts are still infuriatingly hard. For example, one of the final segments of the first level requires you to do some insane wall-jump parkour on narrow pipes. There are piranha plants constantly popping out here and there, and one of them spits fireballs at you. In order to progress through this segment, you have to hit a switch halfway through and then rush to the end before the blocks become solid again. Did I mention this is all happening right over a bottomless pit? Yeah. That's in the VERY FIRST LEVEL. It doesn't help that wall-jumping isn't very reliable. Sometimes Mario will grab onto the wall just fine, and sometimes he'll ignore it altogether, with a delay between hitting the wall and actually grabbing the wall being common (but not at all consistent in length). Also, if you happen to have your back right up to a wall while falling, you're pretty much screwed because Mario WILL NOT turn around and grab it and by time you edge away a bit, turn him around mid-air and get back up against the wall, it's probably much too late to save yourself. Also, the transition between the calm, gentle classical piano music (which is not at all digitized and sounds kinda out of place on the SMB3-style map) on the map screen and the death metal remixes of Mario tunes which play in almost every level is a bit jarring. Oh yeah, did I mention that the game looks like SMB3 again? Yeah, big surprise. While there's some basic 2D lighting (not as much of a marvel now as it would have been a few years ago) and the Goombas have a new custom sprite (for some reason?), it STILL just looks like SMB3 again.

Okay, one serious question regarding the sprites. What the hell is your problem with SMB3-style, aside from being overused. As long as the graphics look good, nobody should complain about graphics, if the only complain is that the graphics are "overused". Yeah, the SMB3 graphic style is overused. So what? That just proves that the SMB3 graphic style is among the best graphic styles (and definitely better than the SMW graphic style or the Bews graphic style).

[quote="TrinitroMan"]Okay, one serious question regarding the sprites. What the hell is your problem with SMB3-style, aside from being overused. As long as the graphics look good, nobody should complain about graphics, if the only complain is that the graphics are "overused". Yeah, the SMB3 graphic style is overused. So what? That just proves that the SMB3 graphic style is among the best graphic styles (and definitely better than the SMW graphic style or the Bews graphic style).[/quote] Personally, I...don't really like the SMB3 style very much. Maybe it's just because I see it so much, but it just looks really bland and lifeless to me. The atmosphere of blandness and gloom that the game intentionally emanates doesn't really help the cause. And besides, it's just another thing that makes this game feel like just another Hello Engine clone.

As easy as it is to do it, games shouldn't be judged by their graphics, but rather by their playability. There are plenty of games out their with less-than-good quality of graphics, but yet play very well.

[quote="Im the Red Spy"]As easy as it is to do it, games shouldn't be judged by their graphics, but rather by their playability. There are plenty of games out their with less-than-good quality of graphics, but yet play very well.[/quote] If you think I'm judging based on the graphics, I take it you skipped the "little" parts where I mention that it's infuriatingly difficult and controls poorly.

[quote="soopakoopa"][quote="Im the Red Spy"]As easy as it is to do it, games shouldn't be judged by their graphics, but rather by their playability. There are plenty of games out their with less-than-good quality of graphics, but yet play very well.[/quote] If you think I'm judging based on the graphics, I take it you skipped the "little" parts where I mention that it's infuriatingly difficult and controls poorly.[/quote] I didn't skip anything. [quote="soopakoopa"]Personally, I...don't really like the SMB3 style very much. Maybe it's just because I see it so much, but it just looks really bland and lifeless to me. The atmosphere of blandness and gloom that the game intentionally emanates doesn't really help the cause. And besides, it's just another thing that makes this game feel like just another Hello Engine clone.[/quote] [quote="soopakoopa"]This just kinda looks like...well, another Hello Engine game but with wall-jumping and a few new graphical bells and whistles. Sure, there are a few new features which change it up a bit, but it's the same physics and the same graphical style.[/quote] [quote="soopakoopa"]Oh yeah, did I mention that the game looks like SMB3 again? Yeah, big surprise. While there's some basic 2D lighting (not as much of a marvel now as it would have been a few years ago) and the Goombas have a new custom sprite (for some reason?), it STILL just looks like SMB3 again.[/quote] You're just judging the game too harshly on the graphical choice. I don't mean to start anything harsh here. It's just my opinion that the graphics shouldn't matter as much as gameplay.

Um, Hello's graphical style isnt purely SMB3. Any custom tilesets that I encountered do not necessarily use the colors found in SMB3. For a tileset to be considered in the style of SMB3, there has to be colors only used and found in that game. However, people have used their own colors if they couldn't find what they need from the game. This is a problem of people marketing their tilesets as such in that style instead of being in a general 16-32 bit styled tileset. (Shikaternia's tiles for example). Plus on numerous fangames of his, Hello's use of Black Squirrel's tilesets actually clashes with the player character and enemy sprites.

[quote="DarkSideStrike"]Um, Hello's graphical style isnt purely SMB3. Any custom tilesets that I encountered do not necessarily use the colors found in SMB3. For a tileset to be considered in the style of SMB3, there has to be colors only used and found in that game. However, people have used their own colors if they couldn't find what they need from the game. This is a problem of people marketing their tilesets as such in that style instead of being in a general 16-32 bit styled tileset. (Shikaternia's tiles for example). Plus on numerous fangames of his, Hello's use of Black Squirrel's tilesets actually clashes with the player character and enemy sprites.[/quote] In my opinion, to be SBM3 styled, it doesn't necessarily have to use that game's color palette. It just has to use shades with the same intensity, but not necessarily the exact same colors. [quote="soopakoopa"]Personally, I...don't really like the SMB3 style very much. Maybe it's just because I see it so much, but it just looks really bland and lifeless to me. The atmosphere of blandness and gloom that the game intentionally emanates doesn't really help the cause. And besides, it's just another thing that makes this game feel like just another Hello Engine clone.[/quote] I'd have to agree with you there. I'm really not a fan of that art style. I'm sure it's overuse plays part of that, but it feels lifeless to me, and doesn't even scream what I perceive "Mario" to be. :/

[quote="Im the Red Spy"][quote="soopakoopa"][quote="Im the Red Spy"]As easy as it is to do it, games shouldn't be judged by their graphics, but rather by their playability. There are plenty of games out their with less-than-good quality of graphics, but yet play very well.[/quote] If you think I'm judging based on the graphics, I take it you skipped the "little" parts where I mention that it's infuriatingly difficult and controls poorly.[/quote] I didn't skip anything. [quote="soopakoopa"]Personally, I...don't really like the SMB3 style very much. Maybe it's just because I see it so much, but it just looks really bland and lifeless to me. The atmosphere of blandness and gloom that the game intentionally emanates doesn't really help the cause. And besides, it's just another thing that makes this game feel like just another Hello Engine clone.[/quote] [b][i]This one isn't even me talking directly about the game, but responding to Trinitroman when he ASKED me why I didn't approve of the style.[/i][/b] [quote="soopakoopa"]This just kinda looks like...well, another Hello Engine game but with wall-jumping and a few new graphical bells and whistles. Sure, there are a few new features which change it up a bit, but it's the same physics and the same graphical style.[/quote] [b][i]It's not the graphical style itself I'm talking about, but how Hello's overuse of the same style, along with basing all of his games on the same engine with a few new gimmicks each time, makes his games all feel very similar. By the same reason there's nothing WRONG with realistic graphics, but the problem with the CoD franchise is that it always uses the same realistic graphics along with the same sort of gameplay and physics, making them all feel the same. Notice how I ALSO said that the physics are the same.[/i][/b] [quote="soopakoopa"]Oh yeah, did I mention that the game looks like SMB3 again? Yeah, big surprise. While there's some basic 2D lighting (not as much of a marvel now as it would have been a few years ago) and the Goombas have a new custom sprite (for some reason?), it STILL just looks like SMB3 again.[/quote] [b][i]This one is just elaborating on the above point.[/i][/b] You're just judging the game too harshly on the graphical choice. I don't mean to start anything harsh here. It's just my opinion that the graphics shouldn't matter as much as gameplay.[/quote] And once again, I'm telling you that the graphics are a [i]minor quibble[/i] and that the first two paragraphs of my initial review, which were also the longest two paragraphs, are about the problems with [i]control and level design.[/i] The overused graphics are just the stale icing on the moldy cake.

You're making a bigger deal out of this than need be. Stop. It's my opinion that graphics don't make gameplay, and shouldn't even affect how fun a game is. Let me have it. I'm not forcing you to accept it.

[quote="Im the Red Spy"]You're making a bigger deal out of this than need be. Stop. It's my opinion that graphics don't make gameplay, and shouldn't even affect how fun a game is. Let me have it. I'm not forcing you to accept it.[/quote] Except that you were trying to prove (by selectively reading parts of his posts just to down him) that he is making a big deal when he isn't. He isn't forcing his opinion on anybody, he's just stating what he thinks about the game and responding to another member. You, Red Spy, are at fault for trying to make him feel bad. [quote="Willsaber"][quote="DarkSideStrike"]Um, Hello's graphical style isnt purely SMB3. Any custom tilesets that I encountered do not necessarily use the colors found in SMB3. For a tileset to be considered in the style of SMB3, there has to be colors only used and found in that game. However, people have used their own colors if they couldn't find what they need from the game. This is a problem of people marketing their tilesets as such in that style instead of being in a general 16-32 bit styled tileset. (Shikaternia's tiles for example). Plus on numerous fangames of his, Hello's use of Black Squirrel's tilesets actually clashes with the player character and enemy sprites.[/quote] In my opinion, to be SBM3 styled, it doesn't necessarily have to use that game's color palette. It just has to use shades with the same intensity, but not necessarily the exact same colors.[/quote] Um, yes it does. It would defeat the purpose if the graphics isn't using the colors found in the original game, let alone the individual pixels in the graphic arranged in a way that would fit in the style. Any deviations from the graphical style used in that game or shared between more than one game (SMB and SMB2 as example, because a graphical style isn't really defined by game though we call it to be because 99% of the time different games -> different art directions...a graphical style is defined by a person's or company's artistic direction that sets up the foundation for their game's aesthetic) wouldn't be in that style. But it does not mean that the graphics automatically clash with the style. Quite the ignorant opinion you have there.

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[quote="Hello"][video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfqQ2M1a7Eg[/video] The version 1.1 update has been released. This update includes Daredevil Mode, a game mode where every hit results in instant death! The update also includes minor level design tweaks and backported bug fixes. [url=http://www.indiedb.com/games/super-mario-dynamo/downloads/super-mario-dynamo]Download[/url][/quote] I-I'm sorry Hello. On one hand, I'm glad to see you're still working on things. But on the other hand, why make an already stupidly hard game stupidly harder? I'm sorry Hello, you've lost me.

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