so far my only real gripes are- - I shouldn't have to lose a life for starting the level over (something I remember this game having at one point in development) - red coins should be saved at the checkpoint - the physics are VERY loose. and Luigi could stand to be marginally floatier otherwise, it's looking pretty good. EDIT: that Tanoomba boss needs reworking too. I've hated it ever since I first played it so many demos ago. also, in the cutscene at Peach's castle, if you have a fire flower, Luigi's palette reverts back to his normal palette for his "panic" sprite. if you haven't noticed by now I've been editing this post as I progress through the demo. the animations in the cutscenes are very lifeless (the death poses are too, mainly Luigi's). some of them I can TELL would be alright, but they're played back too slow (i.e Luigi's falling animation. he shouldn't wake up that fast, and he shouldn't panic that slow). I also wouldn't make the entire game slow down when you go into a pipe. it shouldn't be all that difficult to just make the player slow down. the walking animation on all bros sans Wario could use some work. Waluigi's is by far the most awkward. this game could really use a "return to map" button. having to replay entire levels just to get one collectable is obnoxious. post-chapter one- [ispoiler]the ball has ZERO jumping weight to it. it worked in 3D, it DOES NOT work here. I'd consider heavily reworking the physics or scrap it entirely.[/ispoiler]

[quote="[url=http://phpbb.mfgg.net/viewtopic.php?p=409466#p409466]Mit[/url]"]I also wouldn't make the entire game slow down when you go into a pipe. it shouldn't be all that difficult to just make the player slow down.[/quote] No, that's definitely a bug. Wouldn't slow down the whole game on purpose for a pipe animation :o It's intended to be fixed, once I find out what the heck causes it. I'm not sure what you mean with the ball. Zero jumping weight? Please elaborate. (And I think spoilers aren't necessary here, as the ball has been revealed in trailers.)

[quote="Guinea"]I'm not sure what you mean with the ball. Zero jumping weight? Please elaborate. (And I think spoilers aren't necessary here, as the ball has been revealed in trailers.)[/quote] iirc in Galaxy, when you'd jump the ball would stop for a bit due to the weight of it, at least when moving slowly. here the ball just keeps rolling, and it's really weird. I'd assume that some graphical touch-ups like smoke and a shake or something will be added to help show the weight of the ball somewhere down the line.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/EYnP7I3.png[/img] I shoot a fireball there and it got stuck, you may want to check it out :P

This fan game is amazing. I don't have a clue on what to do for the mummy Cheep-Cheep, however. I also feel that Wario should play similarly to the other characters, rather than acting differently (such as in the way he holds objects, and how he is Dragon Wario instead of Fire Wario).

You can talk to E. Gadd at any point in the game for hints on what to do, that includes during boss fights. As for Wario, what would be the point of having 4 different characters if they all played the same? Wario controls similarly to how he does in the Wario Land games. Theres also the fact that Wario generally wouldn't work like the other characters. Want to pick up that koopa shell? Whoops, you just tackled it instead. Want to to destroy that brick wall? Too bad you just got that fire flower, now you can only toss small fireballs at it like everyone else.

Ah, thanks for the tip. I understand about Wario, now.

Some extra final thoughts after finishing all the levels: Rolling Cactus level - This is a level design opinion: I like how the stage is very different, but it's also very hard. I lost many, many lives on it. It needs to have more of a Mega Man-like design, where if you introduce a new concept, you give players the opportunity to practice before it gets lethal. All you get is that elevator thing in the beginning before you actually have to hop from platform to platform -- or die. There should be some mandatory platform that doesn't result in your death initially. I got an error (unfortunately I lost it because my computer crashes every day) in that one desert level where you have to use a koopa shell to reach the secret exit. I was Mario, holding the key with 1 bar of health left. As I tried to go into the gap where you drop down to the locked door area, I accidentally touched one of the nippers on the right, and it gave me some error about holding an object.

Various "special" tiles (such as the plant trampolines or whatever) don't show up for me. They [i]do[/i] show up for a split second when pausing/un-pausing. [img]http://i.imgur.com/kgXGzUS.png[/img]

[quote]I shouldn't have to lose a life for starting the level over (something I remember this game having at one point in development)[/quote] This. Why did you remove it, it was a great idea. :(

[quote="Friendly Dictator"][quote]I shouldn't have to lose a life for starting the level over (something I remember this game having at one point in development)[/quote] This. Why did you remove it, it was a great idea. :([/quote] I think we dropped that because people were abusing it by collecting early lives in earlier levels, dieing, then doing it over and over again. This might not seem like an issue for the demo, but in the final game where you will be going into progressively harder levels having a super easy life farm can be a bit broken. Either way, I don't see how it's a big deal. You die, you lose a life, sort of goes hand in hand. Plus it sort of encourages the player to try harder. I mean, in the late game things will be very hard, but if theres no real penalty at all for dieing for half of a level, then whats the point?

May i suggest adding a option to come back to the map after a level is completed?

[quote="Chaoxys"][quote="Friendly Dictator"][quote]I shouldn't have to lose a life for starting the level over (something I remember this game having at one point in development)[/quote] This. Why did you remove it, it was a great idea. :([/quote] I think we dropped that because people were abusing it by collecting early lives in earlier levels, dieing, then doing it over and over again. This might not seem like an issue for the demo, but in the final game where you will be going into progressively harder levels having a super easy life farm can be a bit broken. Either way, I don't see how it's a big deal. You die, you lose a life, sort of goes hand in hand. Plus it sort of encourages the player to try harder. I mean, in the late game things will be very hard, but if theres no real penalty at all for dieing for half of a level, then whats the point?[/quote] yea but in a game about collecting things where some of those things are one-shot having to die over and over just to get it kinda defeats the purpose of lives in their entirety. tbh this game could get away without having lives at all

[quote="Chaoxys"]I think we dropped that because people were abusing it by collecting early lives in earlier levels, dieing, then doing it over and over again. This might not seem like an issue for the demo, but in the final game where you will be going into progressively harder levels having a super easy life farm can be a bit broken. Either way, I don't see how it's a big deal. You die, you lose a life, sort of goes hand in hand. Plus it sort of encourages the player to try harder. I mean, in the late game things will be very hard, but if theres no real penalty at all for dieing for half of a level, then whats the point?[/quote] Then just reset everything you collected when you choose to restart the level? What's the deal.

or just make it so 1-ups are one-shot deals instead of respawning after death

^That would work too

[quote="Mit"][quote="Chaoxys"][quote="Friendly Dictator"] This. Why did you remove it, it was a great idea. :([/quote] I think we dropped that because people were abusing it by collecting early lives in earlier levels, dieing, then doing it over and over again. This might not seem like an issue for the demo, but in the final game where you will be going into progressively harder levels having a super easy life farm can be a bit broken. Either way, I don't see how it's a big deal. You die, you lose a life, sort of goes hand in hand. Plus it sort of encourages the player to try harder. I mean, in the late game things will be very hard, but if theres no real penalty at all for dieing for half of a level, then whats the point?[/quote] yea but in a game about collecting things where some of those things are one-shot having to die over and over just to get it kinda defeats the purpose of lives in their entirety. tbh this game could get away without having lives at all[/quote] Honestly, I sort of agree with that, although I think we'd need to have something in place of them. I mean, always rewarding the player with coins would get kinda lame, even with the shop. Best thing I can think of would be randoms Wario Land styled treasure chests that have little treasures in them. Maybe collecting them all would be linked to unlocking a post game world or something? Idk, I'd have to talk it over with Guinea.

If I may make a recommendation, maybe just a more powerful healing item? I don't see the use for lives myself, and to be honest the healing item would be a lot better of a find.

[quote="Chaoxys"][quote="Friendly Dictator"][quote]I shouldn't have to lose a life for starting the level over (something I remember this game having at one point in development)[/quote] This. Why did you remove it, it was a great idea. :([/quote] I think we dropped that because people were abusing it by collecting early lives in earlier levels, dieing, then doing it over and over again. This might not seem like an issue for the demo, but in the final game where you will be going into progressively harder levels having a super easy life farm can be a bit broken. Either way, I don't see how it's a big deal. You die, you lose a life, sort of goes hand in hand. Plus it sort of encourages the player to try harder. I mean, in the late game things will be very hard, but if theres no real penalty at all for dieing for half of a level, then whats the point?[/quote] The official Super Mario World has life farms if you collect a Fishing Lakitu's 1UP, exit the course, and repeat, so it's not much of a problem, in my opinion.

All Mario games have life farming spots, but just because some games make them super easy to find doesn't mean it should be the standard for all games. Either way, whether or not lives are dropped, and what replaces them would be up to Guinea, although I do have a few ideas in mind.