Cap'n Coconuts wrote:
Also, updates and search results ought to show thumbnails for all suitable submission types.
This needs to be brought to the staff's attention in light of LumaSMS development. User-friendly GUI design definitely needs to be at the very top of that project's focal points.
Kritter wrote:
In some instances it's a good read, and pretty much a harmless resource that has absolutely no bearing on whether this site improves or not. Personally I don't see where this all came from as it's probably the least important thing that needs improving on this website.
No one's saying that having a wiki as a
whole is this bad influence on the entirety of MFGG. However, the MFGG Wiki as it is currently poses a lot of problems to the site's presentation, preservation, and perhaps most controversially: writing from varying perspectives. We'll call this the PPP of the wiki.
Yes I'm aware I'm not funnyIn all seriousness, do you want to know
why the MFGG Wiki has a rocky reputation as being this vanity showcase of glorified autobiographies? Because that's exactly what it is. When the wiki was first created, there were very few standards for unbiased article creation and maintenance - which is a flaw that carries over into the present day. There have been efforts even now to curb these articles which have wobbly perspectives woven through them, but even
if we discount articles made prior to, say, 2010 - you still have people doing it to this day.
Unprofessional writing is a crutch to a wiki, even one as "for fun" and "community driven" as MFGG's own. It's vastly jarring to go from reading "
Super Mario's Bullet Hell Banana Trail is an upcoming fangame being created by the wonder team of Dustinvgmaster, Miles, and Dr. Wario slated for release in early 2019" to something like "
Wild Woody is a really slick ass member who joined in the year of our lord 2013 and he only posts
sometimes because honestly nobody LIKES this dude, by his own real admission even." Oh, but you might say something like "oh please, that's an exaggeration, none of the articles are so carelessly written in that way" and... you're right. That
is an exaggeration. You wanna know what isn't, though?
Quote:
He still frequents the board and offers advice or backseat moderation wherever he can! This a joke, for real.
This is from your own wiki article. I combed through the history to check who had some sort of weird issue with you, guess who wrote that? You did. About a year ago, roughly. Now, to clarify: I don't have any issue with a sense of humour at all. Self-deprecation is apparently my bread and butter, in fact! (According to some people, anyways) But you can't have this be an official part of the site
and have effectively no real standard for what is and isn't appropriate writing. Either split the wiki off as it is currently and keep it as an unofficial repository of MFGG Historical Significance to be maintained elsewhere while also possibly starting anew with a fresh MFGG Wiki focused on fangame documentation and game
making documentation, or quit pretending that the wiki as it presently exists is anything but a glorified social media log for MFGG's greatest as well as MFGG's weirdest moments.
Finally, if any of you counter with "oh what's the harm in some silly writing and jokes laid throughout. Who cares, you're getting too high strung over some text on a screen". You know, it
isn't that important at the end of the day, you're right. But, allow me to give you some perspective: biased writing results in biased people. While we're at it, this is a Super Mario fangame website -
none of this really matters compared to other things going on in the world. So let's take what we have and try to uphold some standard of information preservation. If you want to improve the site for the better, I think it's only fair that that means improving
every part of the website. I'd really hate to see the wiki become an ignored product of a decade of bragging, quarrels, and no real goal.
[quote="Cap'n Coconuts"]Also, updates and search results ought to show thumbnails for all suitable submission types.[/quote]
This needs to be brought to the staff's attention in light of LumaSMS development. User-friendly GUI design definitely needs to be at the very top of that project's focal points.
[quote="Kritter"]In some instances it's a good read, and pretty much a harmless resource that has absolutely no bearing on whether this site improves or not. Personally I don't see where this all came from as it's probably the least important thing that needs improving on this website.[/quote]
No one's saying that having a wiki as a [i]whole[/i] is this bad influence on the entirety of MFGG. However, the MFGG Wiki as it is currently poses a lot of problems to the site's presentation, preservation, and perhaps most controversially: writing from varying perspectives. We'll call this the PPP of the wiki. [s]Yes I'm aware I'm not funny[/s]
In all seriousness, do you want to know [i]why[/i] the MFGG Wiki has a rocky reputation as being this vanity showcase of glorified autobiographies? Because that's exactly what it is. When the wiki was first created, there were very few standards for unbiased article creation and maintenance - which is a flaw that carries over into the present day. There have been efforts even now to curb these articles which have wobbly perspectives woven through them, but even [i]if[/i] we discount articles made prior to, say, 2010 - you still have people doing it to this day.
Unprofessional writing is a crutch to a wiki, even one as "for fun" and "community driven" as MFGG's own. It's vastly jarring to go from reading "[b]Super Mario's Bullet Hell Banana Trail[/b] is an upcoming fangame being created by the wonder team of Dustinvgmaster, Miles, and Dr. Wario slated for release in early 2019" to something like "[b]Wild Woody[/b] is a really slick ass member who joined in the year of our lord 2013 and he only posts [i]sometimes[/i] because honestly nobody LIKES this dude, by his own real admission even." Oh, but you might say something like "oh please, that's an exaggeration, none of the articles are so carelessly written in that way" and... you're right. That [i]is[/i] an exaggeration. You wanna know what isn't, though?
[quote]He still frequents the board and offers advice or backseat moderation wherever he can! This a joke, for real.[/quote]
This is from your own wiki article. I combed through the history to check who had some sort of weird issue with you, guess who wrote that? You did. About a year ago, roughly. Now, to clarify: I don't have any issue with a sense of humour at all. Self-deprecation is apparently my bread and butter, in fact! (According to some people, anyways) But you can't have this be an official part of the site [i]and[/i] have effectively no real standard for what is and isn't appropriate writing. Either split the wiki off as it is currently and keep it as an unofficial repository of MFGG Historical Significance to be maintained elsewhere while also possibly starting anew with a fresh MFGG Wiki focused on fangame documentation and game [i]making[/i] documentation, or quit pretending that the wiki as it presently exists is anything but a glorified social media log for MFGG's greatest as well as MFGG's weirdest moments.
Finally, if any of you counter with "oh what's the harm in some silly writing and jokes laid throughout. Who cares, you're getting too high strung over some text on a screen". You know, it [i]isn't[/i] that important at the end of the day, you're right. But, allow me to give you some perspective: biased writing results in biased people. While we're at it, this is a Super Mario fangame website - [b]none[/b] of this really matters compared to other things going on in the world. So let's take what we have and try to uphold some standard of information preservation. If you want to improve the site for the better, I think it's only fair that that means improving [i]every[/i] part of the website. I'd really hate to see the wiki become an ignored product of a decade of bragging, quarrels, and no real goal.