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 Post subject: Re: just make mit admin jesus christ
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:46 pm 
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Mors wrote:
we need a new rule
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  • The moderators and admins can lock any thread they didn't like. Don't expect them to give any reasonable answer though!

Please confirm that this is a joke.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:47 pm 
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Minus World has a great ruleset with fewer moderators. It could be that you guys just aren't actually trying, especially since you kicked out the people who gave a **** about making the community work and feel welcome.

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 Post subject: Re: just make mit admin jesus christ
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:49 pm 
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It's all pie in the sky ideology.

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Minus World has a great ruleset with fewer moderators. It could be that you guys just aren't actually trying, especially since you kicked out the people who gave a **** about making the community work and feel welcome.

:laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: just make mit admin jesus christ
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:50 pm 
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Kritter wrote:
It's all pie in the sky ideology.

DreiDreiDesert wrote:
Minus World has a great ruleset with fewer moderators. It could be that you guys just aren't actually trying, especially since you kicked out the people who gave a **** about making the community work and feel welcome.

:laugh:

and yet we just spent the last 24 hours going up in flames because we couldn't handle immediately warning someone for being blatantly offensive even with proof.

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 Post subject: Re: just make mit admin jesus christ
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:50 pm 
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Here's a great article that really helped shape my views on forum moderation:

How To Effectively Moderate Forums.

It doesn't answer everything, but it's a really good starting point. Here's a more lengthy read on codes of conduct in general: Codes of Conduct FAQ

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:50 pm 
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Pedigree wrote:
Mors wrote:
we need a new rule
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  • The moderators and admins can lock any thread they didn't like. Don't expect them to give any reasonable answer though!

Please confirm that this is a joke.
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 Post subject: Re: just make mit admin jesus christ
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:52 pm 
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here's some simple rules I wrote myself a few years ago, worked out pretty well whenever I've used them. moon base rules

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:53 pm 
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Kritter wrote:
DreiDreiDesert wrote:
Minus World has a great ruleset with fewer moderators. It could be that you guys just aren't actually trying, especially since you kicked out the people who gave a **** about making the community work and feel welcome.

:laugh:

Taking bets, who bets that Kritter never even looked at that ruleset and is just being bitter?

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 Post subject: Re: just make mit admin jesus christ
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:55 pm 
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Kritter wrote:
It's all pie in the sky ideology.

DreiDreiDesert wrote:
Minus World has a great ruleset with fewer moderators. It could be that you guys just aren't actually trying, especially since you kicked out the people who gave a **** about making the community work and feel welcome.

:laugh:

It's not easy and some people aren't fit for the job, but it's definitely not only possible but very do-able.

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 Post subject: Re: just make mit admin jesus christ
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:57 pm 
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okay. but did they break any rules?


Well that's up to personal viewpoints really. Some posts I'd say would've made for fine discussion in normal circumstances, others were what I'd call "too spammy for General Chat" but then that's just my view. Other admins and members have different views.

There's no denying that there was a slew of posts that we normally don't see in General Chat though and you can view them as General Posting but when it's out of character for how the forums have run lately then as an admin you have to make a call on what to do and whoever locked them probably thought it was the best choice at the time.

It's easy to say you'd do things differently in retrospect or when you're watching it from a distance but you have humans behind the wheel who are trying to do the best with the basic ruleset they're given and you absolutely can't please everyone despite what you might think.

there aren't even rules that dictate what should be posting in the general chat, nor are there rules that say "don't post joke threads" or anything of the sort
i don't understand why you have a defeatist attitude when the solution could be banged out in a day

i will even write the new rules for mfgg if i have confirmation that the staff will work with me to implement them

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:58 pm 
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Kritter wrote:
It's all pie in the sky ideology.

DreiDreiDesert wrote:
Minus World has a great ruleset with fewer moderators. It could be that you guys just aren't actually trying, especially since you kicked out the people who gave a **** about making the community work and feel welcome.

:laugh:


As a mod on Minus World I will say that our rules and staff work, you can view my posts in other threads to see why I think MFGGs don't work.

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 Post subject: Re: just make mit admin jesus christ
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:59 pm 
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Yoshin wrote:
Kritter wrote:
It's all pie in the sky ideology.

DreiDreiDesert wrote:
Minus World has a great ruleset with fewer moderators. It could be that you guys just aren't actually trying, especially since you kicked out the people who gave a **** about making the community work and feel welcome.

:laugh:


As a mod on Minus World I will say that our rules and staff work, you can view my posts in other threads to see why I think MFGGs don't work.


I'm not sure Kritter is familiar with the new Minus World, I can't blame him if he's judging it by old standards but we've really turned it around in the past year and a half

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 Post subject: Re: just make mit admin jesus christ
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:03 pm 
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Yoshin wrote:
Kritter wrote:
It's all pie in the sky ideology.

DreiDreiDesert wrote:
Minus World has a great ruleset with fewer moderators. It could be that you guys just aren't actually trying, especially since you kicked out the people who gave a **** about making the community work and feel welcome.

:laugh:


As a mod on Minus World I will say that our rules and staff work, you can view my posts in other threads to see why I think MFGGs don't work.


Minus world isn't MFGG. Different people, different age groups and different ideologies.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:04 pm 
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they're both message boards and therefore have similar guidelines

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Mit wrote:
they're both message boards and therefore have similar guidelines

That's a huge over-generalization. A board like NeoGAF has way different rules than, say, MFGG.

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They're different and need to be handled differently, sure. But it's foolish to throw out experiences that could help out and insist that Nothing Will Ever Work.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:08 pm 
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Vertette wrote:
Mit wrote:
they're both message boards and therefore have similar guidelines

That's a huge over-generalization. A board like NeoGAF has way different rules than, say, MFGG.

you literally told people who wanted a ppp to go to 4chan o 8chan instead

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Mors wrote:
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Mit wrote:
they're both message boards and therefore have similar guidelines

That's a huge over-generalization. A board like NeoGAF has way different rules than, say, MFGG.

you literally told people who wanted a ppp to go to 4chan o 8chan instead

hilarious but seriously inappropriate

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I guess I gotta be the ballbuster and be the one to say that Mit isn't suited to be one according to general opinion of the staff. I'm cool with Mit tho but that doesn't say much considering I'm generally cool with people. Case closed bros.

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