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 Post subject: Re: add some kind of anti-discrimination rules
PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:42 pm 
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Psid wrote:
There's other forums that allow you post these kind of stuff in a better environment than what we got.


There's other forums for all kinds of subjects but that's no reason we shouldn't also be able to discuss it here too?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:43 pm 
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you're gonna seriously say nothing he said was discriminatory when we have actual hard evidence that he did it on purpose to get a rise out of people?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:43 pm 
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Then vote Coco out, because now I think HylianDev is your best admin. The rest of y'all are asinine, holy moly.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:43 pm 
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DarkSideStrike wrote:
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I don't think Psid should get warned.

Why not? his post in this thread is perfectly okay as he expressed his opinion in a civil way, but on the lgbt thread he was behaving very rudely


Not really, even if it was civil, what matter is that he did it to troll and he openly admitted this in the CFP discord and this is the same argument that was used by the religous right to persecute LGBT people.

I'm not saying his posts in the LGBT thread were okay, but the ones in this thread are fine to me, even if I dont agree with them. But I do think he should be warned for his posts on the lgbt thread.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:44 pm 
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DarkSideStrike wrote:
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I don't think Psid should get warned.

Why not? his post in this thread is perfectly okay as he expressed his opinion in a civil way, but on the lgbt thread he was behaving very rudely


Not really, even if it was civil, what matters is that he did it to troll and he openly admitted this in the CFP discord (Mit has the screenshot for proof) and this is the same argument that was used by the religous right to persecute LGBT people. If he wanted to raise awareness he could have expressed it better than just to peddle old shady arguments.

I already had a warning for that. Isn't that enough?

And I don't want the thread to be turned into a topic about me and my actions. I know it's bad, but we shouldn't be going too far with this.

 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:44 pm 
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There's other forums that allow you post these kind of stuff in a better environment than what we got.

you're literally the only reason this environment is bad

anyways i agree, it seems weird that there's no anti-discrimination rule. i'm pretty sure mfgg used to have one.
hopefully next time the rules are revised something can be added.

idk something like "No Discrimination. Do not post content that is discriminatory against marginalized groups (race, religion, gender, sexuality, etc.) MFGG is to be an open and welcoming forum."

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:44 pm 
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no discrimination! totally a gray area!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:45 pm 
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Mit wrote:
you're gonna seriously say nothing he said was discriminatory when we have actual hard evidence that he did it on purpose to get a rise out of people?

You had a screenshot that could've easily been fabricated.

If you have actual hard proof, send it to the admins and let them deal with it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:47 pm 
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Vertette wrote:
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you're gonna seriously say nothing he said was discriminatory when we have actual hard evidence that he did it on purpose to get a rise out of people?

You had a screenshot that could've easily been fabricated.

yes because i would totally do that, you're right. and not because it's from the goddamn CFP discord of all places for EVERYONE has access to it.

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Vertette wrote:
Mit wrote:
you're gonna seriously say nothing he said was discriminatory when we have actual hard evidence that he did it on purpose to get a rise out of people?

You had a screenshot that could've easily been fabricated.

If you have actual hard proof, send it to the admins and let them deal with it.

I can tell you that. Mit is giving evidence, I was just mostly ****posting.

But seriously, it's up to Admins to deal with the matter. If the whole community is going rabble with this stuff on the mess that I've created, then it's going to turn into a very ugly matter.

We can just stop with the stuff

And I honestly apologize for the ****post and the mess that I've created. Though, that'll fly over people's heads.

 
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Mit wrote:
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you're gonna seriously say nothing he said was discriminatory when we have actual hard evidence that he did it on purpose to get a rise out of people?

You had a screenshot that could've easily been fabricated.

yes because i would totally do that, you're right. and not because it's from the goddamn CFP discord of all places for EVERYONE has access to it.

Looks like I caught you!

No but really though, if that was his intention, all you got to do is tell the admins. He got a warning so that should solve the matter, no?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:50 pm 
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You can't just apologize for that. You're no longer trustworthy.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:52 pm 
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Vertette wrote:
Mit wrote:
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You had a screenshot that could've easily been fabricated.

yes because i would totally do that, you're right. and not because it's from the goddamn CFP discord of all places for EVERYONE has access to it.

Looks like I caught you!

No but really though, if that was his intention, all you got to do is tell the admins. He got a warning so that should solve the matter, no?

he obviously did not if we're still here talking about it.

the difference between showing it publicly and showing the admins is that now everyone knows. everyone knows that the admins didn't do anything about it except lock the thread and ban people who weren't responsible. the admins can see this just as well as everyone else.

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Today's been kind of awful for MFGG. I fully support the addition of an anti discrimination rule.

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Mit wrote:
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yes because i would totally do that, you're right. and not because it's from the goddamn CFP discord of all places for EVERYONE has access to it.

Looks like I caught you!

No but really though, if that was his intention, all you got to do is tell the admins. He got a warning so that should solve the matter, no?

he obviously did not if we're still here talking about it.

the difference between showing it publicly and showing the admins is that now everyone knows. everyone knows that the admins didn't do anything about it except lock the thread and ban people who weren't responsible. the admins can see this just as well as everyone else.

He does have a warning now, or did he have that before?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:54 pm 
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unless his warning is higher than 6%, he always had that warning.

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It seems to be up to 30% now

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:56 pm 
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it would be nice to see this being taken care of publicly so people know what's going on then.

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It seems to be up to 30% now

There you have it then.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:57 pm 
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I take it back - I didn't really see all the posts Psid posted in the LGBT thread. I only skimmed some of them.
Yeah, the trollish behaviour definitely warrants a warn, but Miles already handled that I heard.

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