Psid wrote:
I don't get the point of this thread.
Is it to just discuss real events that actually happen is fake due to some bull**** reason? Or is it entirely just a troll and boredom thread?
Really makes you think, huh...
No one argues over Columbine's validity. That **** had solid hard evidence and very few miraculous coincidences. Meanwhile, looking at something like Sandy Hook where there's a billion and one odd-ball moments such as people walking around and through a firehouse over and over again, the passing of a law that hides all death information of minors to prevent any leaks just months prior (with a clause that hides information about ANY homicide), a skinny white boy managing to carry 4 heavy weapons on him while gunning 25 kids down in 5 minutes, THIS graph looking at internet activity for the school's website:
The website's activity shot down in 2008 due to the school's asbestos infestation. No emails between staff, no meetings, nothing. Why? Because the school was completely vacant... Until the day of the shooting. What a miraculous coincidence that must be.
Photoshopped family pictures.
Notice how the grass is sharp in the center, but miraculously gets insanely blurry near the right side of the image?
Hey guys, that's not how grass behaves.
Grass doesn't miraculously get clipped when in front of some guy's knee. And the girl on the right... Where's her right leg?
I don't even have to go over this one. A hilariously sloppy job indeed.
The burden of proof lies with anyone claiming that these are undoctored photographs. And one photograph puts all the rest under suspicion.
Here's a Columbine family photo for comparison:
Notice how it actually looks real? There's no bull**** clipping or blurring or missing limbs?
How can that be?! It's almost as if it's a real family photo of a real family!
Then there's this.
I've not seen a single hoax video cover it ever. They do a lot about the outside of the school, the Lanza house and all that but not one video, not one doc or other coverage have I found has ever just straight up pointed to this one single piece and called it a day.
Every other thing out there can be debated. This one can't. At all. The story is either true or it's not true. And if any one piece of the story is bull****, the entire story is bull****.
The official story is that well before any cops arrived, and what, 7 or so minutes in, Adam Lanza turned the gun on himself, pulled the trigger, the bullet traveled through his skull, through the hat and lodged in the ceiling or wall. They show these images as Lanza's hat, as identified by the bullet hole.
I don't f*cking think so, no.
THIS is what getting shot in the head while wearing a hat looks like:
Spoiler:
Showing these two images and pawning them off as evidence of that claim doesn't wash. There's not a single drop of blood on the inside or outside of the hat, and that's not reality. The claim is he was wearing the hat when he pulled the trigger - the bullet traveled through it before it lifted or fell off his head, so there should be a massive amount of blood staining, brain and skull fragmentation and hair all inside the hat, as well as staining on the outside.
There is no blood on the floor near the bullet casing which also indicates a big staged photo op as the shell would've flown out and landed at a distance. The hat did not also fly off and conveniently land by the casing. They are two entirely different trajectories. So, the claim is this hat landed near this casing, yet it's different in both and they flipped the hat over - one way or the other way, no telling - and there's not the first speck of blood or brain matter.
You guys are missing the point. I'm not saying Sandy Hook was a hoax "just because they conveniently passed a law that prevents the release of any actual convincing photographic evidence", or "just because of some hat", or "just because of internet activity", or "just because of erratic and unbelievable behavior at the scene", or "just because family photos were shopped as hell".
I'm saying Sandy Hook was a hoax BECAUSE ALL OF THESE THINGS HAPPENED AT ONCE. Anyone can point to any one detail and say "that's debatable, people act weird under stress, that doesn't prove anything, etc etc", but no one,
NO ONE can debate all of these inconsistencies in bulk. Sorry, Sandy Hook is bull****. The factual evidence they provided to support their claim does not support their claim whatsoever. Anyone claiming otherwise has a massive burden of proof on their shoulders.
[quote="Psid"]I don't get the point of this thread.
Is it to just discuss real events that actually happen is fake due to some bull**** reason? Or is it entirely just a troll and boredom thread?
Really makes you think, huh...[/quote]
No one argues over Columbine's validity. That shit had solid hard evidence and very few miraculous coincidences. Meanwhile, looking at something like Sandy Hook where there's a billion and one odd-ball moments such as people walking around and through a firehouse over and over again, the passing of a law that hides all death information of minors to prevent any leaks just months prior (with a clause that hides information about ANY homicide), a skinny white boy managing to carry 4 heavy weapons on him while gunning 25 kids down in 5 minutes, THIS graph looking at internet activity for the school's website:
[img]https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/image-15-shes-internet-activity.jpg[/img]
The website's activity shot down in 2008 due to the school's asbestos infestation. No emails between staff, no meetings, nothing. Why? Because the school was completely vacant... Until the day of the shooting. What a miraculous coincidence that must be.
Photoshopped family pictures.
[img]https://s2.postimg.org/qfhvcqjdl/chrome_2017-07-24_15-42-01.png[/img]
Notice how the grass is sharp in the center, but miraculously gets insanely blurry near the right side of the image?
Hey guys, that's not how grass behaves.
[img]https://s18.postimg.org/723g9g8ft/chrome_2017-07-24_15-42-50.png[/img]
Grass doesn't miraculously get clipped when in front of some guy's knee. And the girl on the right... Where's her right leg?
[img]https://s1.postimg.org/wuj8s0z3z/chrome_2017-07-24_15-45-46.png[/img]
I don't even have to go over this one. A hilariously sloppy job indeed.
The burden of proof lies with anyone claiming that these are undoctored photographs. And one photograph puts all the rest under suspicion.
Here's a Columbine family photo for comparison:
[img]http://media.thedenverchannel.com/photo/2016/02/12/johnsonfamilycolumbine_1455340163364_31846864_ver1.0_640_480.jpeg[/img]
Notice how it actually looks real? There's no bullshit clipping or blurring or missing limbs?
How can that be?! It's almost as if it's a real family photo of a real family!
Then there's this.
[img]https://s12.postimg.org/90gmp5zkd/lanza_hat.png[/img][img]https://s21.postimg.org/obw4yvptz/image.jpg[/img]
I've not seen a single hoax video cover it ever. They do a lot about the outside of the school, the Lanza house and all that but not one video, not one doc or other coverage have I found has ever just straight up pointed to this one single piece and called it a day.
Every other thing out there can be debated. This one can't. At all. The story is either true or it's not true. And if any one piece of the story is bullshit, the entire story is bullshit.
The official story is that well before any cops arrived, and what, 7 or so minutes in, Adam Lanza turned the gun on himself, pulled the trigger, the bullet traveled through his skull, through the hat and lodged in the ceiling or wall. They show these images as Lanza's hat, as identified by the bullet hole.
I don't f*cking think so, no.
THIS is what getting shot in the head while wearing a hat looks like:
[spoiler][url=https://s16.postimg.org/3rruoebhh/dead.jpg]Very graphic photo. Click at your own risk[/url][/spoiler]
Showing these two images and pawning them off as evidence of that claim doesn't wash. There's not a single drop of blood on the inside or outside of the hat, and that's not reality. The claim is he was wearing the hat when he pulled the trigger - the bullet traveled through it before it lifted or fell off his head, so there should be a massive amount of blood staining, brain and skull fragmentation and hair all inside the hat, as well as staining on the outside.
There is no blood on the floor near the bullet casing which also indicates a big staged photo op as the shell would've flown out and landed at a distance. The hat did not also fly off and conveniently land by the casing. They are two entirely different trajectories. So, the claim is this hat landed near this casing, yet it's different in both and they flipped the hat over - one way or the other way, no telling - and there's not the first speck of blood or brain matter.
You guys are missing the point. I'm not saying Sandy Hook was a hoax "just because they conveniently passed a law that prevents the release of any actual convincing photographic evidence", or "just because of some hat", or "just because of internet activity", or "just because of erratic and unbelievable behavior at the scene", or "just because family photos were shopped as hell".
I'm saying Sandy Hook was a hoax BECAUSE ALL OF THESE THINGS HAPPENED AT ONCE. Anyone can point to any one detail and say "that's debatable, people act weird under stress, that doesn't prove anything, etc etc", but no one, [i]NO ONE[/i] can debate all of these inconsistencies in bulk. Sorry, Sandy Hook is bullshit. The factual evidence they provided to support their claim does not support their claim whatsoever. Anyone claiming otherwise has a massive burden of proof on their shoulders.