P-Star7 wrote:
Who wants to make a fangame knowing that that is what they are thought of?
We do. Idk if the entire team feels exactly the way I do, but
I don't give a flapping flicker what Nintendo's "parents" think about it. They aren't working on this game, so I see no reason why they should have a say in what we do. There is nothing ethically wrong with what we're doing here.
P-Star7 wrote:
Mario's parents are not asking for this, so I wouldn't want to give them this.
We're not giving
them anything, we're giving you, and the rest of Mario Fan Games Galaxy, this game, for the
fundamental purpose of making more Mario fan games exist.
Maybe some history will clear this up. The other day, VinnyVideo made a thread pointing out the declining amounts of Mario fangames here, and entreating us developers to think of a solution. This project was what we came up with. If we didn't make this a Mario fangame, well, then we'd be failing the purpose of making this game.
P-Star7 wrote:
I don't know about any of you guys, but I can't separate Mario from the company. My opinion of Nintendo has been poisoned with this and then my issues with Breath of the Wild, and I can't just support that in any part.
Most people see fangames and official games as separate entities. Their headcanons are certainly influenced by fancontent, especially when it comes to characterization, but as far as what Mario as a whole
is, I don't think many other people have this issue. Moreover, if Mario fangames are "poisoning" your perception of Mario, then I think you issue is actually about the
quality of fangames, not the fact that they are fangames.
P-Star7 wrote:
Mit, Dustin, and everyone else can do just as good a job doing any other theme.
I know they could, and I'm absolutely certain I could, but I don't
want to. At the end of the day I'm going to make the game I feel like I'll be having fun making, and fangames are fun for me. They let me express my creativity with a world I love. Team projects always limit your control over a project to some degree (generally the larger the team, the less control you have), and this is a pretty large team for a fangame. However, the opportunity to work with these awesome people is enticing enough that I'd work on this project pretty much no matter what it was. Even if it wasn't a fangame, I guess.
So even though I'd prefer to make a fangame, I'd be fine making something non-Mario. However, earlier today considerations were made as to whether this should be Mario themed or not, and we collectively decided that it should be predominately Mario, so clearly the majority of the team wants to make a Mario fangame. You can posit all the reasons we shouldn't want to do this, and you can even substantiate them with logic and specific evidence, but at the end of the day
making a fangame is what we want to do.
[quote="P-Star7"]Who wants to make a fangame knowing that that is what they are thought of?[/quote]
We do. Idk if the entire team feels exactly the way I do, but [i]I[/i] don't give a flapping flicker what Nintendo's "parents" think about it. They aren't working on this game, so I see no reason why they should have a say in what we do. There is nothing ethically wrong with what we're doing here.
[quote="P-Star7"]Mario's parents are not asking for this, so I wouldn't want to give them this.[/quote]
We're not giving [i]them[/i] anything, we're giving you, and the rest of Mario Fan Games Galaxy, this game, for the [i]fundamental purpose[/i] of making more Mario fan games exist.
Maybe some history will clear this up. The other day, VinnyVideo made a thread pointing out the declining amounts of Mario fangames here, and entreating us developers to think of a solution. This project was what we came up with. If we didn't make this a Mario fangame, well, then we'd be failing the purpose of making this game.
[quote="P-Star7"]I don't know about any of you guys, but I can't separate Mario from the company. My opinion of Nintendo has been poisoned with this and then my issues with Breath of the Wild, and I can't just support that in any part.[/quote]
Most people see fangames and official games as separate entities. Their headcanons are certainly influenced by fancontent, especially when it comes to characterization, but as far as what Mario as a whole [i]is[/i], I don't think many other people have this issue. Moreover, if Mario fangames are "poisoning" your perception of Mario, then I think you issue is actually about the [i]quality[/i] of fangames, not the fact that they are fangames.
[quote="P-Star7"]Mit, Dustin, and everyone else can do just as good a job doing any other theme.[/quote]
I know they could, and I'm absolutely certain I could, but I don't [i]want[/i] to. At the end of the day I'm going to make the game I feel like I'll be having fun making, and fangames are fun for me. They let me express my creativity with a world I love. Team projects always limit your control over a project to some degree (generally the larger the team, the less control you have), and this is a pretty large team for a fangame. However, the opportunity to work with these awesome people is enticing enough that I'd work on this project pretty much no matter what it was. Even if it wasn't a fangame, I guess.
So even though I'd prefer to make a fangame, I'd be fine making something non-Mario. However, earlier today considerations were made as to whether this should be Mario themed or not, and we collectively decided that it should be predominately Mario, so clearly the majority of the team wants to make a Mario fangame. You can posit all the reasons we shouldn't want to do this, and you can even substantiate them with logic and specific evidence, but at the end of the day
[i][u][b]making a fangame is what we want to do[/b][/u][/i].