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Author:	Technoflops [ Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:26 pm ]
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oh god that theme is so bright especially when in a dark room with a really bright screen owww

Author:	Merit Celaire [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:05 am ]
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HylianDev wrote: reCaptcha fixed, and you should all be able to post now I tested with Kritter's permissions via the control panel and it worked @kritter: there'll be an MFGG theme soon Just one question: are there any plans to possibly change the "Topic Listing" presentation on that theme to what being shown now for these forums? Just wondering since I still find the presentation for these forums to still be better.

Author:	HylianDev [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:30 am ]
Post subject:	Re: MFGG Mainsite Development
There are no plans, but I can consider doing something about it if I know more about what it is you like about the current listing.

Author:	onpon4 [ Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:09 pm ]
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It looks like that new theme has at least one instance of a gratuitous JavaScript requirement in the form of some sort of user menu on the top-right. There is a way to implement a sort of mouse-over menu with CSS. This website uses one of those: http://channelawesome.com Automatic JavaScript execution is bloated, insecure, and antithetical to liberty, so I think any website that doesn't need to require JavaScript shouldn't do so. JavaScript should only be used for optional flair, or for cases where something absolutely can't be done another way.

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HylianDev [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:22 am ]

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Re: MFGG Mainsite Development

What's going on with MFGG3?

Well, I got a job, and after that, development on MFGG3 slowed to a halt. But I'm finding more time and motivation lately to work on it.

What do we know?

TCSMS submissions will carry over to MFGG3
TCSMS accounts will carry over, but you will not be able to log into them, you can only link them to your forum account. The forum account will be your actual active account
Reviews will now be 1 through 5
A comments thread for content submitters to talk privately with the staff. Finally! Good communication between the staff and the submitter! No more confusion or being left in the dark about your submission!
Searching for content will be MUCH easier. You'll be able to search for content with an intuitive tag system (examples A, B, C).
Following users and submissions for updates/new content

What is possible?

Dropping phpBB. We might get rid of the current forum system, and accounts and posts may or may not carry over. I know starting over again would be a chore, but honestly it seems like an appropriate time to do it, considering that this will be the biggest new MFGG age since last decade when MFGG 2 happened.
Liking forum posts!
Thumbs up/down on submissions
Browsing ZIP files on the site, without downloading them. I'm going to look into the possibility. Sometimes you just want one sound effect. I know it's annoying to download a ZIP and rummage through it!
And more

onpon4 wrote:

It looks like that new theme has at least one instance of a gratuitous JavaScript requirement in the form of some sort of user menu on the top-right. There is a way to implement a sort of mouse-over menu with CSS.

I looked into this. The current model of the mainsite theme uses no JavaScript for navigation!

Author:	Q-Nova [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:28 pm ]
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So, I have a question here. How are we going to link TCSMS accounts to our forum accounts? Are we going to link them by using the password of our TCSMS account, or something like that?

Author:	HylianDev [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:38 pm ]
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Yes, the password. You're gonna have to remember it. If there's a case where you really can't remember it, the staff can try to find a way to prove that you owned the account. This can be done with email addresses, any other logs TCSMS might've had (IP addresses, security questions if it has that?) or just if we "know" that you owned that account.

Author:	Q-Nova [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:51 pm ]
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Oh, okay. Though, I have another question. If we are going to drop off phpBB, then will there be an archive that contains all of the posts and accounts in this version of the forums (if posts and accounts don't get carried over, that is), or will all of this version of the MFGG forums become deleted for good?

Author:	HylianDev [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:03 pm ]
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This forum will be archived just like the forums of the past Unfortunately, the old archives got corrupted, I believe when the server switch happened.

Author:	Retriever II [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:11 pm ]
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If you were going to drop phpBB, what would you replace it with? (Two answers I don't want to hear: "I'd write my own" and "Discourse")

Author:	Orson [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:15 pm ]
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AcmlmBoard XD shot

Author:	Cap'n Coconuts [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:20 pm ]
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HylianDev wrote: Dropping phpBB I would love it if someone would make a very good argument why that should be done. Changing the forum software sounds like more trouble than it's worth.

Author:	Mors [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:27 pm ]
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It's probably MyBB. Cap'n Coconuts wrote: Changing the forum software sounds like more trouble than it's worth. (I like this emote.)

Author:	HylianDev [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:15 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: MFGG Mainsite Development
Retriever II wrote: If you were going to drop phpBB, what would you replace it with? Well, Quote: (Two answers I don't want to hear: "I'd write my own" and "Discourse") Oh. Writing my own is an option I put on the table because one of the routes I'm considering is switching to the Laravel framework, or something comparable. If I go with such a framework, I'm going to have to integrate the forum system into the framework to preserve continuity (which is one of the main reasons for the redesign, and is not negotiable). I'm also wanting to mod the user login/registration system a decent amount, allowing for things like social media logins and etc. The time and headaches put into integration and modification could probably be spent just as well writing a ground-up BBS that comes native with the features I'd like to have. does anybody remember CTBBS, which was being made for MFGG3? Keep in mind, that is just one option. Another option is integrating the forum system (be it same old phpBB, or something else like MyBB) into a simple framework I could write specially for MFGG3. ========================================= In other news: a potential design I wrote up for the new mainsite

Author:	Kritter [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:48 am ]
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I would suggest not getting caught up in new ideas if the old ones work just fine. It's all good and well to want to make everything shiny and cutting edge, but things like PHPbb are still around for a good reason I would say.

Author:	VinnyVideo [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:08 am ]
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MyBB looks more modern than phpBB, but I also see how switching to another system could become complicated, especially when transferring badges. Also, the interface of phpBB could be improved simply by making a few tweaks.

Author:	Merit Celaire [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: MFGG Mainsite Development
Yeah, just by checking the "community forums" at MyBB, the layout on the frontend (presentation wise) is way different as compared to the phpBB "subSilver" layout (which I've been used to on these forums for years). In this case, I feel that switching forum systems generally speaking (in terms of both the frontend and backend operations) is a bad idea and something that I wouldn't recommend either.

Author:	Retriever II [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:16 pm ]
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I strongly caution against trying to build a full BBS from scratch. These are the two most probable outcomes: - You'll get mired in the additional work and never release. - You'll release something that's missing too many core features present in the existing system and just make a lot of people upset. Most ground-up rebuilds of existing systems fail. Trying to tackle two at once isn't going to help your chances.

Author:	Retriever II [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:18 pm ]
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Merit Celaire wrote: Yeah, just by checking the "community forums" at MyBB, the layout on the frontend (presentation wise) is way different as compared to the phpBB "subSilver" layout (which I've been used to on these forums for years). In this case, I feel that switching forum systems generally speaking (in terms of both the frontend and backend operations) is a bad idea and something that I wouldn't recommend either. The 'subsilver' theme was heavily modified for the look and feel of Invision 2, so I'd argue it doesn't look much like phpBB either (:

Author:	Merit Celaire [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: MFGG Mainsite Development
Retriever II wrote: Merit Celaire wrote: Yeah, just by checking the "community forums" at MyBB, the layout on the frontend (presentation wise) is way different as compared to the phpBB "subSilver" layout (which I've been used to on these forums for years). In this case, I feel that switching forum systems generally speaking (in terms of both the frontend and backend operations) is a bad idea and something that I wouldn't recommend either. The 'subsilver' theme was heavily modified for the look and feel of Invision 2, so I'd argue it doesn't look much like phpBB either (: Yeah, I noticed the "difference" as well; and more power to the designers for trying to make the forum design "emulate" IPB2 in a way. Still, switching forum systems has its pros and cons, and if I'm not mistaken, if the forum system itself were to be changed at all, that's where the challenge lies because many of us were used to the phpBB system here.

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