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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:20 pm 
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As you may know, we've begun an effort lately to make the MFGG Wiki more accurate and more useful. To help assist in those goals, four new users have been promoted to the position of Wiki Sysop: Guinea, Alex, Mason, and me. If you have a problem with something on the Wiki, these are the folks to ask from now on. Not to sound overly important, but give us all a hand for old time's sake! After all, the coronation parade is tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:57 am 
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Note that I'm just Sysop for technical reasons, so unless it's a technical problem please contact the others :)

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:08 am 
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Well, I'm glad to see that some stuff is being done to help improve the Wiki. And well done to Alex, Mason and VinnyVideo for becoming Sysops, and Guinea for becoming the technical Sysop.

I just want to ask one thing, though. Would it be possible if, though working hard with regards to the wiki and other stuff, one could become a moderator of the wiki? (Note that a Mod would have less powers than a Sysop, but that's most likely clear to see already)

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 Post subject: Re: New Wiki Sysops
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:47 am 
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ah2190 wrote:
I just want to ask one thing, though. Would it be possible if, though working hard with regards to the wiki and other stuff, one could become a moderator of the wiki? (Note that a Mod would have less powers than a Sysop, but that's most likely clear to see already)

I am not familiar with wikis, so I do not know much about the rights management. I guess it is possible to manually add new groups with rights that would represent a moderator. At the moment, only bureaucrat and administrator exist as groups and a Sysop is both of those.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:23 pm 
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Speaking of member bars, Mason should get a "Wiki Sysop" bar on the forums.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:29 pm 
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and wiki-contributor badge. ;)

BTW. Thanks to you all for helping the wiki better. Articles are clearly understandable and detailed. Good job!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:38 pm 
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Congrats to all of you! :)

Also, yeah, you should get the sysop bar and the wiki badge.

 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:20 pm 
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Mason wrote:
Thanks for the congratulations. I'm having slight trouble with the infoboxes on the articles.
And what would that be?

 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:24 pm 
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Alex wrote:
Speaking of member bars, Mason should get a "Wiki Sysop" bar on the forums.

Done.
Also Alex and Vinny have been added to the groups (doesn't make a difference though).

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:23 pm 
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ah2190 wrote:
I just want to ask one thing, though. Would it be possible if, though working hard with regards to the wiki and other stuff, one could become a moderator of the wiki? (Note that a Mod would have less powers than a Sysop, but that's most likely clear to see already)

MFGG Wiki has traditionally ignored fancy user rights. You're either super-admin-sysop-moderator-beuraucrat bloke, or you're a regular member. It's not really big or active enough to justify "mini mods" or "janitors" or whatever, and it's an absolute pain to implement as you need to do it by hand.

The major feature that differentiates admins and mods on this forum is the Admin CP, which allows you to completely alter how the board is run. No such feature exists in MediaWiki. The only thing a "moderator" could do would be delete pages. That's pretty much it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:52 pm 
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Well, that's true... but the thing is, if I was to become a member of the wiki team, I wouldn't want to be handed the whole list of powers that a Sysop has all at once - for one, there are some powers (like promoting members and protecting pages) that I would either have no use of or that I don't feel I could be trusted with, especially at this point in time as I've only recently joined. And also, it would be much better if potential sysops could get a 'trial run' with a restricted amount of powers to see if they are suited for the job and wouldn't abuse their powers. And, to be frank about it, I'm not that interested in becoming a moderator on these forums right now, except maybe with regards to the competitions. But I'm more than willing to help out on the wiki, even if I never rise above the normal member rank. Then again, I am sometimes prone to backseat mod a little, especially when it comes to spam pages - that is, if someone else doesn't get there first.

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 Post subject: Re: New Wiki Sysops
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:23 pm 
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so what happened with the PMs

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:45 am 
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DJ Yoshiman wrote:
so what happened with the PMs


PMs? What PMs are you on about, DJ Yoshiman?

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 Post subject: Re: New Wiki Sysops
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:25 am 
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On the MFGG Wiki, there are only two levels of promotions: Bureaucrats (who can promote people) and Sysops (who can do everything Bureaucrats can do except make promotions). If you want to become one, the best strategy is to make a lot of useful contributions to the Wiki and the site in general.

Also, if you see a spambot page and you're not able to delete it, just mark it with the {{delete}} tag and it'll get taken care of.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:24 am 
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okay

but anyways, what happened with the PMs you sent me

i mean if you figured out that you've got enough and you're good, no worries, i'm not complaining - it'd be nice to inform me instead of asking me and then abruptly make a topic without any follow up PM or anything

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:53 am 
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Oh right, I think Vinny asked Yoshiman if he wants to be a Sysop, too.
Vinny!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:53 pm 
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Actually, I totally misunderstood what you said in the PM. Very sorry, Yoshiman! If you're still interested, I can add you as a Sysop and/or Bureaucrat right away.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:48 pm 
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no, no, i was initially under the impression that there weren't any immediate volunteers for wiki sysops - i obliged to accept assuming that the roles needed to be filled vastly, i am fine staying as-is, as long as that means the spambots and related articles will be terminated more often now


i will continue observing it and making changes to articles as i see fit should they need any, especially the older ones

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:20 am 
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All right - that sounds good. I'm going to be checking the Recent Changes at least once a day, and now that we have other active sysops besides me, spammers should get shot down quickly.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:31 am 
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Plus, I'll be trying to help the best that I can with what I've got.

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