[quote="Sheetless Funky"][quote="Hexyuu Yandere"][quote="Kinky"] then it's not pixel art, it's a scribble with the pencil tool. so far, i believe mors' entry is the only valid one, unless yours and soniczetrex's entry are being counted[/quote] Uhhh, it is the same thing as Mors', plus if that doesn't even count as pixel art, then it would take weeks or even months to make a real 100% pixel art background because it takes too much work to be careful on every single pixel -.-[/quote] Nope, you're wrong. I put every single pixel individually, except for straight lines. And I zoomed 100% times while making it. I'm actually gonna update it a bit soon. EDIT: BTW, it took me 2 hours to complete it, even though I could complete it faster.[/quote] I have a point. You can't tell when people do it or not. Example: I couldn't tell if you did it or not because anyway it would have been possible to make that in less time by using the pencil tool. Also the shading of the sky is also not pixel art because of that.

[quote="Hexyuu Yandere"][quote="Sheetless Funky"][quote="Hexyuu Yandere"] Uhhh, it is the same thing as Mors', plus if that doesn't even count as pixel art, then it would take weeks or even months to make a real 100% pixel art background because it takes too much work to be careful on every single pixel -.-[/quote] Nope, you're wrong. I put every single pixel individually, except for straight lines. And I zoomed 100% times while making it. I'm actually gonna update it a bit soon. EDIT: BTW, it took me 2 hours to complete it, even though I could complete it faster.[/quote] I have a point. You can't tell when people do it or not. Example: I couldn't tell if you did it or not because anyway it would have been possible to make that in less time by using the pencil tool. Also the shading of the sky is also not pixel art because of that.[/quote] except what you did isn't pixel art and therefore should be exempt from entry.

[quote="Mit"][quote="Hexyuu Yandere"][quote="Sheetless Funky"] Nope, you're wrong. I put every single pixel individually, except for straight lines. And I zoomed 100% times while making it. I'm actually gonna update it a bit soon. EDIT: BTW, it took me 2 hours to complete it, even though I could complete it faster.[/quote] I have a point. You can't tell when people do it or not. Example: I couldn't tell if you did it or not because anyway it would have been possible to make that in less time by using the pencil tool. Also the shading of the sky is also not pixel art because of that.[/quote] except what you did isn't pixel art and therefore should be exempt from entry.[/quote] I explained why it is, but it seems you missed my point -.-

[quote="Hexyuu Yandere"]I couldn't tell if you did it or not because anyway it would have been possible to make that in less time by using the pencil tool.[/quote] It would be near impossible to draw these hills without zooming in and putting the each pixel individually, because they are almost perfectly rounded and symmetrical. So yeah, my entry is clearly pixel art and it's really easy to tell that. [quote="Hexyuu Yandere"]Also the shading of the sky is also not pixel art because of that.[/quote] Because of what? And no, it's also pixel art. Just like the hills I put each pixel individually for the sky, then stretched it to make it fill the whole background.[quote="Hexyuu Yandere"]I explained why it is, but it seems you missed my point -.-[/quote] Kinky explained why it isn't, but it seems you missed his point -.-

[quote="Sheetless Funky"]It would be near impossible to draw these hills without zooming in and putting the each pixel individually, because they are almost perfectly rounded and symmetrical.[/quote] Or one could just use Paint.net's circle tool in conjunction with the rectangle tool. It's a really simple shape.

even then you'd probably have to go back and clean up the curves

Okay, so I made a new BG, now hopefully fitting the requirements :D The Background: [spoiler][img]http://i.imgur.com/vbz4U3R.png[/img][/spoiler] The Tiles: http://i.imgur.com/G6Bwgwb.png It is supposed to represent a Sewer Background :)

[quote="Willsaber"][quote="Sheetless Funky"]It would be near impossible to draw these hills without zooming in and putting the each pixel individually, because they are almost perfectly rounded and symmetrical.[/quote] Or one could just use Paint.net's circle tool in conjunction with the rectangle tool. It's a really simple shape.[/quote] Paint.net's circle tool is pretty bad tho, it makes circles pretty jaggy on low resolutions.

[quote="Sheetless Funky"][quote="Hexyuu Yandere"]I couldn't tell if you did it or not because anyway it would have been possible to make that in less time by using the pencil tool.[/quote] It would be near impossible to draw these hills without zooming in and putting the each pixel individually, because they are almost perfectly rounded and symmetrical. So yeah, my entry is clearly pixel art and it's really easy to tell that. [quote="Hexyuu Yandere"]Also the shading of the sky is also not pixel art because of that.[/quote] Because of what? And no, it's also pixel art. Just like the hills I put each pixel individually for the sky, then stretched it to make it fill the whole background.[quote="Hexyuu Yandere"]I explained why it is, but it seems you missed my point -.-[/quote] Kinky explained why it isn't, but it seems you missed his point -.-[/quote] How could you have put each pixel individually for the sky??? That's not possible to do in such a short span of time. And Kinky only partially explained why it isn't, and I justified why he's in the wrong.

[quote="Hexyuu Yandere"]How could you have put each pixel individually for the sky??? That's not possible to do in such a short span of time.[/quote] seems you took what all of us said a bit more literally than intended

[quote="Hexyuu Yandere"]How could you have put each pixel individually for the sky??? That's not possible to do in such a short span of time.[/quote]When I put the pixels its width was just 4 pixels. Then I stretched it to 512 pixels [quote="Hexyuu Yandere"]And Kinky only partially explained why it isn't, and I justified why he's in the wrong.[/quote]You just said "Uhhh, it is the same thing as Mors', plus if that doesn't even count as pixel art" which is completely wrong.

[quote="Mit"][quote="Hexyuu Yandere"]How could you have put each pixel individually for the sky??? That's not possible to do in such a short span of time.[/quote] seems you took what all of us said a bit more literally than intended[/quote] What you mean, exactly? [quote="Sheetless Funky"][quote="Hexyuu Yandere"]How could you have put each pixel individually for the sky??? That's not possible to do in such a short span of time.[/quote]When I put the pixels its width was just 4 pixels. Then I stretched it to 512 pixels [quote="Hexyuu Yandere"]And Kinky only partially explained why it isn't, and I justified why he's in the wrong.[/quote]You just said "Uhhh, it is the same thing as Mors', plus if that doesn't even count as pixel art" which is completely wrong.[/quote] 1. If you stretched it then that means you skipped putting each pixel individually, but in a worse way than using the pencil tool like I did. So if your entry qualifies, mine should qualify as well. 2. I can easily tell that you misunderstood what I said because you didn't copypaste the whole message.

i think this endless back and forth is starting to derail the topic edeN, you're taking things way too literally, and mors, he obviously won't listen, so why bother? edeN's entry doesn't qualify and mors' does there we go

[quote="Kinky"]i think this endless back and forth is starting to derail the topic edeN, you're taking things way too literally, and mors, he obviously won't listen, so why bother? edeN's entry doesn't qualify and mors' does there we go[/quote] You're not elaborating at all -.-

[quote="Hexyuu Yandere"]1. If you stretched it then that means you skipped putting each pixel individually, but in a worse way than using the pencil tool like I did. So if your entry qualifies, mine should qualify as well.[/quote]How is that worse? How does that make any difference? If I didn't stretch it it would still look same, but it would also take 5 times more time. Seriously, if you don't know what's pixel art, then don't argue about it. [quote="Hexyuu Yandere"]2. I can easily tell that you misunderstood what I said because you didn't copypaste the whole message.[/quote] Nope, I understood what you were trying to tell, but I don't think you're even trying to understand what we are saying.

[quote="Hexyuu Yandere"][quote="Kinky"]i think this endless back and forth is starting to derail the topic edeN, you're taking things way too literally, and mors, he obviously won't listen, so why bother? edeN's entry doesn't qualify and mors' does there we go[/quote] You're not elaborating at all -.-[/quote] when people say "place each pixel individually," it means "not draw with the pencil tool". you can still use tools like fill bucket and whatnot (basically using MS paint helps keep you in line), and that's generally recommended anyway. literally nobody places each individual pixel piece by piece, that's absolutely insane. when people say "each pixel counts", it means that you're creating the illusion of form by using pixels. a good way to visualize it is drawing on graph paper. fill in each of the squares to try to make a sprite, don't draw through them like you would on regular paper.

and in the end, we're derailing this thread, especially when everything that had to be said has been said. i don't think further discussion is needed.

I completly agree with Recent, this Discussion is completly useless at this point...

Since im contest host, ill settle this once and for all. Regardless whether Hexyuu's (and by extension, SonicZextrix's) entry is or isn't pixel art (read: I don't fully consider the art entries shown by those two contestants to be pixel art), I still think his shouldn't be counted because his entry looks to me that its less fitting within a Mario game and more or less a nondescript theme his background is. Hexyuu, if you are reading this, I suggest you rework your entry into compliance instead of further derailing this thread. A friendly reminder that tommarow is the final day and by 12 PM, I will start the voting.

Dark Side, should I put a link to my bg in my post aswell or is that okay with the image being shown in the post?