Kirby's Adventure wrote: I think your definition of "great example" is different than most people's. I respectfully object, At first, I was like "Man, do you even know what you're reading? It's clear that I was making fangames and now switching to indie games, so it is just a perfect example of "fangame maker to indie game maker", since it is clearly written from past to present in order of events", but then I think I got your point. You mean, I wasn't exactly a developer because I was using engines and making very little differences according to my mediocre programming knowledge? That's correct... BUT your statement is still incorrect because I was pointing out I was a great example in my own fact: Black Serafuku wrote: fangame maker who switched to indie. Literally and gramatically explained in my paragraph. Even though I was barely a developer, I was technically still making fangames. Creating, at least if not much, is still literally creation. Then switching to indie, and that's a fact. Since it describes perfectly the sequence of events that portray the fact, it could even be called "perfect example". Fairly loyal to the dictionary. If my definition is different than most people's, it means most people don't define things according to the dictionary. That's downright erroneous. Well, I may be expatiating too much on the literal flaws of your statement, but overall, it's not what you thought it was. Now, you might be wondering why I even bothered making this post. First, why not? It doesn't hurt, does it? Second, it is still related to the topic. If you think a post needs to be 100% loyal to the OP, now that's certainly questionable on my side. Third, you need to put into consideration all those cases where there is a portion of uncertainty on whether something is acceptable or not. In the vast majority of cases, it is acceptable when the user has at least logic reasons to relate it with the expected item. Fourth, what's such a gargantuan difference between slight presence of developing to general developing of a game in terms of acceptance in this context? I won't argue that there is actually a difference in terms of amount, but it's clearly not enough to downright set the first apart from context like it shouldn't even have been laid out. Heck, I never heard of a single game maker who isn't called developer. You just call them that way. You cannot even tell if they actually developed it or used some open source in case they don't give away the truth regarding the making process (which many don't even do). So how do you even tell? It is just beyond your reach because you cannot read minds at long and possibly unknown distances. Back on topic, it isn't up to me nor you if my example is going to be accepted or not. It's CM30's decision. I honestly do not mind myself being put into consideration or not. I don't think there is more discussion needed about this matter, since CM30 is literally asking if anyone knows any more examples (Source: first sentence). My answer is that I know myself as possible example, which was the point of my approach here. To avoid further derailing, I'd like to state that it's better to just move on and leave the thread back on track, even though the derailing was rather insignificant but still literally counts as derailing. I humbly apologize for that. I'll do my part by refusing to continue the derailing, and hope the thread's goal of getting more examples suggested will be fulfilled~
[quote="Kirby's Adventure"]I think your definition of "great example" is different than most people's.[/quote]
I respectfully object,
At first, I was like "Man, do you even know what you're reading? It's clear that I was making fangames and now switching to indie games, so it is just a perfect example of "fangame maker to indie game maker", since it is clearly written from past to present in order of events", but then I think I got your point. You mean, I wasn't exactly a developer because I was using engines and making very little differences according to my mediocre programming knowledge? That's correct... BUT your statement is still incorrect because I was pointing out I was a great example in my [i]own[/i] fact:
[quote="Black Serafuku"]fangame maker who switched to indie.[/quote]
Literally and gramatically explained in my paragraph. Even though I was barely a developer, I was technically still making fangames. Creating, at least if not much, is still literally creation. Then switching to indie, and that's a fact. Since it describes perfectly the sequence of events that portray the fact, it could even be called "perfect example". Fairly loyal to the dictionary. If my definition is different than most people's, it means most people don't define things according to the dictionary. That's downright erroneous. Well, I may be expatiating too much on the literal flaws of your statement, but overall, it's [i]not[/i] what you thought it was. Now, you might be wondering why I even bothered making this post. First, why not? It doesn't hurt, does it? Second, it is still related to the topic. If you think a post needs to be 100% loyal to the OP, now that's certainly questionable on my side. Third, you need to put into consideration all those cases where there is a portion of uncertainty on whether something is acceptable or not. In the vast majority of cases, it is acceptable when the user has at least logic reasons to relate it with the expected item. Fourth, what's such a gargantuan difference between slight presence of developing to general developing of a game in terms of acceptance in this context? I won't argue that there is actually a difference in terms of amount, but it's clearly not enough to downright set the first apart from context like it shouldn't even have been laid out. Heck, I never heard of a single game maker who isn't called developer. You just call them that way. You cannot even tell if they actually developed it or used some open source in case they don't give away the truth regarding the making process (which many don't even do). So how do you even tell? It is just beyond your reach because you cannot read minds at long and possibly unknown distances.
Back on topic, it isn't up to me nor you if my example is going to be accepted or not. It's CM30's decision. I honestly do not mind myself being put into consideration or not. I don't think there is more discussion needed about this matter, since CM30 is literally asking if anyone knows any more examples (Source: first sentence). My answer is that I know myself as possible example, which was the point of my approach here. To avoid further derailing, I'd like to state that it's better to just move on and leave the thread back on track, even though the derailing was rather insignificant but still literally counts as derailing. I humbly apologize for that. I'll do my part by refusing to continue the derailing, and hope the thread's goal of getting more examples suggested will be fulfilled~
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